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- Subject: Visual Tools Needed
- Sent: 12/13/96 2:44 AM
- Received: 12/13/96 8:50 AM
- From: Adam Nash, adamnash@CS.Stanford.EDU
- Reply-To: ODF Interest, ODF-Interest@CILabs.ORG
- To: OpenDoc Development Framework Discussion List, ODF-Interest@CILabs.
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- Hi Everyone,
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- I just wanted to seed a discussion and maybe some commentary about
- what I consider to be a major hole in the OpenDoc product plans - good
- visual development tools. Basically, what I want is an environment where I
- can rapidly interconnect OpenDoc components programatically. For example,
- I want to be able to create a browser with 5 CyberButtons, each of which
- opens another link. I want these buttons *NOT* to open new windows, but
- instead change the content of the browser part. Voila, nice compact IT app.
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- OpenDoc has a good component architecture, IMO, better than OLE2.
- It has also a better user model, with the ability to really put together
- compund documents at the user-level (like CyberDog doc-builder). However,
- the all important middle ground, RAD tools, seems to be lacking.
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- I've been thinking of getting a group together to design an OpenDoc
- extension, that would define the API necessary for parts to be accessible
- through a visual editor. You'd need to support things like design vs.
- runtime, property/behavior modification, etc. Then parts that support this
- extension could be manipulated via some script language.
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- What are people's thoughts about this? How about Apple comments,
- official or better yet unofficial :)
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- Would people be interested in discussing it, either via email, this
- list (I crossed ODF since they seem closer tied to potential visual tools),
- or Macworld SF 1997.
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- I don't know how many of you have seen Visual Basic 5.0 CCE, but if
- you haven't you should. Visual Basic is still Visual Basic, but the
- ability to change properties and behavior of OLE2 controls via simple code
- was impressive. They've transferred well from VBXs to OCXs. An OpenDoc
- version could be so much better, but it really needs to bappen in 1997 - at
- least a beta for people to start working with, and integrate into shipping
- components.
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- The example of the custom browser was written really quickly in VB
- 5.0, and even special graphical effects like smooth scrolling were
- possible.
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- - Adam
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- "The opinions expressed above do not necessarily represent
- those of Stanford University, Apple Computer, or the
- United States of America."
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- Adam Nash
- CS 198 Coordinator
- mailto://adamnash@cs.stanford.edu
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- http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~adamnash
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